The day has come to say goodbye. We have been together for over three years and you’ve been with me on almost every run during that time. You are awkward and large, but I have loved you anyway. You’ve been dependable, but now you’re not.
On today’s early morning ride, my Garmin crapped out. It’s been losing battery power for a few months now, but I’ve been too cheap to get a new one. Now I’m faced with the sad (yet fun) reality that it is time to go shopping.
Out with the old… In with…
I only have a few requirements:
- GPS
- Heart rate monitor
- Under $250
- Multi sport capability (I use it when I cycle too, swimming is optional)
- User friendly – because I can be a dumbass with technology
- Preferably no bezel – think this would drive me nuts
- Microwave oven capability (for those times on the trail when you want to heat a Hot Pocket)
39 months ago when I bought my Garmin Forerunner 205, I paid $130. This means it has cost me .11¢ per day to own this watch. I don’t know what that means or why I figured that out. All I know is it’s been one of my best investments, after that quesadilla maker.
So, tell me what to get.
What kind of running watch do you have? How much did it cost and would you buy it again?
Do you know of any good deals out there right now? I know Costco has some good deals. Right now the Forerunner 410 is on sale for $199, but I’m not sure if that’s a good deal or not. Costco also has a Garmin Golf GPS watch, so I might quit running and take up the most boring sport in the universe (just my .02¢)
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Get a quesadilla GPS unit! Two birds with one stone.........
ReplyDeleteI love my 310XT but it is a little spendy.
ReplyDeleteMy Garmin 305 was put to rest after about 4 years. I figure that's a pretty good run, considering it has done ALL of my distance running with me. Boyfriend bought me the new Garmin 610 for Christmas and I really do love it! I don't use an HRM, but it comes as an option. I think they are over $300, though. But, I found it to be the closest thing to what I already had. I looked at other brands, but the research found their GPS to be really poor. I say, stick with Garmin.
ReplyDeleteI have the 205. Good to know it lasts about 3 years tho! Are you going to give it a nice ceremonial burial?
ReplyDeleteI have a Garmin 305 and I LOVE it. I will likely buy another one when mine dies - or that updated version. It is the only thing that I have found that is accurate 99% of the time and I can use for biking and running.
ReplyDeleteDid you have a funeral and burial service for your watch? It is going to be a sad day at the Kohler house when mine dies.
I went from the 205 to the 410 last May. I love about as much as I loved the 205. The smaller size is a plus. The one thing I don't like about it: You can never completely power off. It will go into "power save" mode, but it's basically on all the time. So I have to charge it a lot more than I did the 205.
ReplyDeleteI test drove this really sweet Polar GPS watch recently. LOVED the display, it was really flat and not bulky like the Garmins and it was waterproof so you could wear it for triathlons. If I had some spare change, I'd buy it in a heartbeat! Don't remember the name, but I bet if you looked at the Polar website, it'd be one of their top watches. Okay, I just looked for you (you're welcome :)):
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I have the Garmin 405CX. It has a heart rate monitor, which I have yet to figure out. I do like this watch, tho. It has a virtual runner, will track interval workouts, and I think it will also track cycling, too. (with an additional attachment). It cost around $250 with the HRM.
ReplyDeleteHow timely, my Garmin 305 (equally large and awkward) has been dying for the last couple of weeks and finally bit the dust last Sunday. I am contemplating getting it refurbished but I'm also considering purchasing a new one. I'll be reading your comments closely to see the suggestions. seemikerun.ca
ReplyDeleteI recently acquired the Garmin 410 from my Dad & love it. He wouldn't take the time to read a few simple directions & set it up to his liking so he just didn't use it. I'm not big on patience with tech stuff but it really didn't take long & we are getting along great. :) Thanks Dad! It doesn't automatically go into shut down mode after a certain time but you can go into the settings & shut it down that way.
ReplyDeleteI have the 405, which has a bezel like the 410. It drives me bonkers!!! I would suggest a unit with regular ol' buttons.
ReplyDeleteI have the 405 and love it. The bezel just takes patience...but I have a friend who also hates the bezel.
DeleteI've had several Garmins for biking and running and have loved them all - except the 410. I had to return 3 of them to Garmin for battery issues. They would send me a new one and within a week it was having the same or similar issues. It took forever to turn on, would turn off in the middle of a workout, would be fully charged and last 30 minutes before dying. VERY frustrating. I also hated the touch bevel. I finally got another 305 and haven't had any problems with it. Lasted 20 hours in my last ultra - just as advertised for battery length. I bought my husband the 910XT and he loves it. It has an altimeter - great for trail running. It is pricey, but thinner and lots more features. It may even be able to heat up a Hot Pocket. :)
ReplyDeleteOops, I meant I have a 310 - you can use it for swimming too.
DeleteI mostly love my Garmin 405, it is much smaller than the 205 and you can get it with a heart rate monitor. Going price is right around $200 but you can find occasional deals on-line. On the downside, it does have a shorter battery life and I basically have to charge it after every run. And I am not sure if it has a microwave option.
ReplyDeleteOn a side-note, if your 205 is crapping out on you, you can call Garmin tech support and whine, and they might either download new software (is that model wireless?) or tell you to can send it in for rehab. Then, keep it as a back-up or loaner to those visiting runner-friends who forgot theirs. I rehab'ed my antique Garmin 201 which, even with the boat-anchor profile, is STILL the most reliable with the longest-lasting battery life of them all, and I still use it when I forget to charge the 405. Good Luck!
I talked to them a few months back. I could get a refurbished watch for about $75 or so. Not worth it, rather get a new one.
Deletemine died as well, and though Garmin says you cannot replace the battery, if you are tech savvy, you sure can! We ordered a battery used for i-pods and my awesome hubby sauterred (sp??) it in there. It works again,yippeee!!
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DeleteIt's a good deal for the 410! It comes with a HRM and that version is $299 on the Garmin site!!
ReplyDeleteto bad the bia watch isn't out yet
ReplyDeleteYes! I want a bia too when they are available. Hope they reach their funding goal!
DeleteI'm hoping for a Bia too! My garmin 305 is huge.
DeleteI hope Bia gets all of their required funding as well. I backed the project. As someone who runs alone, it would give me a little more comfort when I'm out there. I currently have the Nike+ and love it.
DeleteI had a 305 that died 2x (once under warranty). When I went to buy the 310XT (due to longer battery life for my IM), I went to REI. Garmins will die on you. But at least with REI, when it dies, they'll replace it for free. Not the cheapest deal, but definitely the best long-term way to go.
ReplyDeleteHeads up...REI has $50 rebates associated with some of their Garmins right now...this might be the way to go...and for me, too!
DeleteA little more than you want to spend, but I LOVE my 310XT. I mean, LOVE LOVE.
ReplyDeleteThe 410 is LARGE on a small frame. The rubber strap sucks so you need to replace with the Velcro strap that come with it. That means the the strap will stink from sweat. Won't download interval workouts that I create on the computer to put on the watch. Lap time shows up in teeny unreadable print. I would not buy it again.
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ReplyDeleteI bought my Timex Ironman Run Trainer a few months ago and looove it.
I have a MotoACTV and I love it. It is so easy to use and it does everything you want except the swimming.....and microwave. Good luck and let us know which one you finally choose.
ReplyDeleteI had the 305 for 3 years and loved it, and a couple of months ago replaced it with the 610. I REALLY love the 610. really really. I named mine Flash. :) Feel free to pm me if you have any questions about it... super easy to use (i am not very "techy"), and has worked perfectly, held a charged well, etc. etc.
ReplyDeleteMy Garmin pooped out too- and I was researching to buy a new one but then my friend told me about Endomondo (a Smart Phone App) that is totally free- and it rocks. It doesn't have a heart rate monitor of course- but until you find the Garmin of your dreams- you should use this App. It tracks your run (or bike, walk, whatever) and gives you splits and all kinds of cool data. I love it and it is FREE!!!!
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Not to be dumb, but doesnt' that mean I have to have my phone with me on all runs? Also, I'm guessing you can't see your stats while running unless you are holding your phone right?
DeleteYes, you would have to hold your phone while you are running to view your stats, although Ms. endomondo updates you every mile with your splits etc. this feature got me more than my share of odd looks last summer during my marathon training! I always forgot to turn the volume down on my phone. I like this app a lot, and it's free!
DeleteI also use this app with an armband and I love it. She can even speak info into earbuds after it mutes your downloaded music as well.
DeleteI also use this app with an armband and I love it. She can even speak info into earbuds after it mutes your downloaded music as well.
DeleteI also use this app with an armband and I love it. She can even speak info into earbuds after it mutes your downloaded music as well.
DeleteIf you don't care about size the 310XT may be what you want.
ReplyDeleteThe 405 has this touch bezel thing for configuring and flipping which drives a lot of people nuts. I had no problem with mine, I just lock the touch bezel before I start my run so it doesn't flip by mistake.
I have a 610 now and love it. It is fairly small, and has a touch screen for navigating the menues which is awesome. It also has a vibrate alert so you don't miss splits or pace alerts or whatever. And finally it has the ability to show 4 things at once (405 can only do 3).
In a race I like to have: time, ave pace, miles, current split pace.
Both the 405 and 610 are only good for about 6 hours of battery. If you want a watch for Tris then the 310 or the 910 is for you.
Happy deciding!
I recently got the Timex Run Trainer - It has been wonderful - you can bio sand swim with it and it has 4 settings that you can customize how ever you want to see whatever you want during your run/bike/walk/whatever session! I really like it! It uploads into TrainingPeaks which you can keep a free version of to track all of your workouts. It comes with or without a heart rate monitor. I got mine on sale without the monitor for $150!! I think it is originally $185.
ReplyDeleteHappy Shopping! I have a horrible time spending more than $30 anywhere at one time - so good luck!
I recently got the 210 (201 crapped out)and the jury's still out. I'm charging it more because it's always on (although not GPS'ing) and it shows me average and actual pace on 2 different screens, which is no bueno. It's small with teal accents though. You know because aesthetics are everything.
ReplyDeleteI have a 405CX that I really liked for running and it was good for cycling too with the cadence sensor. I bought it 2 yrs ago when I started running. I recently purchased a new in the box 310XT on Ebay for $230 with the HRM. It is bigger than the 405 (although slightly smaller than yours), but it does everything I need for triathlon. The new 910XT has the added benefit of lap counting, but IMHO not enough perks to make me part with that much more of my cash.
ReplyDeleteI use the MapMyRun app on my phone as I need my music. Hubby and I share a belt thing that will fit our phone as we both hate the armbands.
ReplyDeleteI am sporting the Timex Ironman watch. I really like it but I can't seem to download my data to my laptop and Training Peaks. My Garmin Edge 500 bike computer is pushing me back toward the Garmin brand and thinking 910XT.
ReplyDeleteKaren has the 310XT and I didn't like it when I used it but she loves it.
I tried the Timex and returned it. Just too big for me and I had a hard time getting a signal. Will look at the 310XT.
DeleteI recently got the garmin 410 and I LOVE it! It does have a bezel but I don't have any issue with that...and I am definitely lacking in the patience department. I have wrists about the size of most children and I find the inner strap works just fine. Someone commented that the lap time is tiny...you can change the display to move it to a larger section of the screen...but even where it is from the factory it is plenty easy to read while out on a run. Highly recommend.
ReplyDeleteI have a Garmin 610. I love it. No buttons to push when I want to see other info... Just a swipe with my finger. And the touch screen works with gloves on or sweaty fingers. Unfortunately it doesn't fall bellow $250. $349 seems to be the standard price, but there are discounts to be had here and there.
ReplyDeleteI also love my Garmin 610, which I used to replace my Forerunner 305. Seriously. Puffy heart love. Unicorns and rainbows love.
ReplyDeleteI use the Nike+ GPS sportswatch (and you can use Ironman heart rate monitor with it if you like) and I love it. It's all I've used and have had no problems with it. Pretty simple to use and dummy proof. You can set the display as you like and it has a tap feature for light (which I actually use a lot). It's about $170 in the USA I believe.
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DeleteAnother vote for the Garmin 610. Bought in October of last year, and I'm still in love. Before that, I was using iPhone apps and then I had a brief affair with the NikeGPS watch, which crapped out on me after 3 months...beware. So glad to have switched to Garmin.
ReplyDeleteI use a simple non-gps sports watch by Nike, found on ebay for 25.00.
ReplyDeleteEbay is awesome.
I have the Forerunner 210 and I love it. The best part is that it is no bigger than a regular mens sports watch. For in depth reviews of LOTS of GPS watches, check out the dcrainmaker reviews at : http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2010/12/garmin-forerunner-210-in-depth-review.html The rolling pin size comparison photo is especially helpful!
ReplyDeleteOMG - check out this watch - it's going to be PERFECT: BIA:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.kickstarter.com/projects/956860865/bia-the-first-gps-sports-watch-for-womenby-women
I have the Garmin 610 which would've been pricey except that I bought it on ebay, earned swagbucks gift cards through searching, and lucked out. I absolutely love it! The best feature is the touch screen b/c navigation is so much easier when you're just tapping on a screen.
ReplyDeleteNot to be a shill or anything but google dcrainmaker or follow the link on my blog. He does the most thorough reviews you could possibly imagine.
ReplyDeleteLove my Garmin 210. I have a VERY small wrist and it actually fits. It doesn't have a ton of bells and whistles which is great. It tells me heart rate, and pace info. It finds satellites quickly so I can get going. The price was right :-)
ReplyDeleteLove my 305. Reliable. Old fashioned. Not too pricey. Not high-maintenance.
ReplyDeleteMy garmin 310X craps out on me all the time. I'm totally on board for the Bia watch (http://www.bia-sport.com). It has your requirements PLUS the added emergency feature, which no other watch has. I'm most excited about that. I'm hoping like crazy that they get full backing in the next 10 days so it goes to production. I'm holding out for the Bia watch...smaller, cooler, lighter, my choice of colors, and auto emergency contact.
ReplyDeleteI wish you didn't need to replace it right now, because Bia would be PERFECT.
ReplyDeleteWant to borrow one of our 310's as a lender and then field test for us in the fall?
...and I am being serious....
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Twist my arm! I'm all over it. Should I email you?
DeleteNice...
DeleteLucky!
DeleteSweet!
DeleteJust became a Bia-backer on Kickstart.
DeleteWhichever one you get, make sure it has a multisport option! The 405 does not so it's a pain to switch between running and biking. I still haven't figured it out!
ReplyDeleteThe refurbished 305 is the best deal out there.
ReplyDeleteI agree!
DeleteI bit the bullet and dropped the cash on the Garmin 310XT. At the time it was probably the most expensive GPS watch that Garmin made and the decision wasn't light. But it had mulitsport capabilities and I have never regretted the decision. I love my 310XT.
ReplyDeleteGarmin now has the 910XT with all kinds of cool upgrades, but I can't justify the cost when the 310 is still cruising along flawlessly. I would highly suggest giving the 310XT a try or maybe contact Garmin to see if they will let you "review" the 910XT for your blog! ;)
I have a Forerunner 405 and love it. I got it for way under $200 but I didn't want the Heart Monitor. Now, it does have a Bezel, but you can shut it off.
ReplyDeleteI use the Nike+ Sportswatch, too, with the heart rate monitor. Love it! I get a signal every time, and the batttery stays charged for quite awhile. And I use the shoe pod as a backup for races or training runs where I might lose GPS, like through a tunnel :) I paid $169, plus $60 for the heart rate monitor.
ReplyDeleteGarmin - UGH!!! I have never been so frustrated with a piece of technology in my life! I live in sunny, SoCal...so I can't believe there's ANY excuse for this watch to drop or not record my runs, because of bad satellite connections. I swear, it has dropped over 30% of my runs. that is KRAZY!
ReplyDeleteI am desperately hoping the new BIA watch (http://www.bia-sport.com/). If we all support it on Kickstarter, we can ALL get one!!
YES!!! Everyone go support Bia if you haven't already - for as little as $1.
DeleteMy only advice would be to lift your price restriction, and get the very best...the Garmin 910XT. We ALL know you are worth every penny, and so do you in your heart. I've personally had this one for only three months, but I really like all the features (even though I only use a fraction of them). It works perfectly on runs, is excellent on my bike rides, and I've even used it for pool swims. It counted the laps accurately, and provided some interesting data points.
ReplyDeleteSpend the money....you know you want to..... :-)
I love the part where you say I am worth every penny.
DeleteI have been running with a Garmin Forerunner 201 for nearly 8 years. I know that it is going to die any day. So, I read all the reviews - will come back to your post one day when I need a new one. Very interested in what you end up with and your reviews.
ReplyDeleteThe Garmin 201 is not water proof nor have a HR monitor. So I also have the Polar RS300X - it has a footpod not GPS - I prefer the display & GPS on the Garmin to the Polar. (Older eyes need bigger numbers) Sometimes I am very geeky and will wear both.
I have the garmin 405, its my first garmin, so I don't have a 'non-bezel' comparison, but once I learned how to use it, it hasn't caused any grief.
ReplyDeleteDo not under value big. At a certain point (last year for me) your near vision/ability to focus quickly will begin to go (really fast) and you won't be able to see the numbers on the little watches! Especially while running. I sold my 205 and got a 305 because I wanted the cadence add-on for my bike and wanted to try the heart monitor. I rarely wear the monitor but love that I can easily monitor my cadence on the bike. And love that bog ole thing on my wrist that I can see at a glance.
ReplyDeleteI have a 310 since i wanted it for biking and swimming. I love it for the most part but it is big. For Swimming I mostly use it as a lap counter. I love that you can program the screen to read what you want. I have 4 screens programed for different things and switch between them regularly. I also got it at REI so I know should it ever crap out I can get a replacement with no problems.
ReplyDeleteWhat I don't like right now is since my hubs upgrade my computer operating system my watch and computer stopped being paired. I can still get the info from my watch to the computer but nothing from the computer to the watch including updates. I think this is a computer problem and not a watch problem and eventually I will get around to calling Garmin to see how to fix it.
I have a few running friend that love the Nike watch since they don't have wireless issues (USB built into the wrist band) and the foot pod works when the GPS doesn't. I also have a few tri friends that love the new 910 that is smaller and is accurate on the open water swims. (my 310 said we swam 2.94 miles on run mode and their watch said 1.1 miles which was about right).
Lastly I read on somewhere that Garmin is currently offering $50 credit if you upgrade your Garmin now.
I read your headline and was hoping you'd tell me what to buy! My Garmin (exactly like yours) died today, just before my speed workout. Hum...I will read through your comments. Let us know what you decide.
ReplyDeleteI think by the end we're all more confused. But the general consensus is...get the Bia. We have to get it produced.
ReplyDeleteAgreed.
ReplyDeleteI have been reading everything I can about gps watches for the last week so your blog title really caught my eye and I knew I'd be wanting to read the comments! I have the Garmin 405 and it drives me f*cking nuts. Go read the Garmin 405 forums and just slap ditto after all the comments for me. I think it was great in theory but 50% of them turned out to be lemons. Noticed all the talk of BIA so I checked it out and backed them!!! I really realy hope they make it!!! If they do, I'll hang onto my Garmin Lemon till it comes out. You'll have to feature them in the next post to move some people that way! :)
ReplyDeleteI have the Garmin 305 but I don't use it a lot. It does what I need it to do - record splits, give me my instant pace, act like a watch. I think it was under $100 since it was "old" when we bought it...and refurbished. I agree that a bezel sounds downright dumb for a running watch. What does the world have against good old buttons?!
ReplyDeleteI love my 410. It's my 3rd garmin and i don't think I'd ever veer from Garmin for a gps watch. you can never go wrong with a Garmin, regardless of which model you go with. i always get them with a HRM too.
ReplyDeleteThe 405 was my first foray into Garmin watches. The bezel made me want to run over the damn thing with my car. True story. Since lots of people love the 405 and sing it's praises, I just assumed I wasn't up to the Garmin challenge. I kept hauling my iPhone on every run no matter how short, close to my house and well-lit. (The Runkeeper app does have decent data and you can touch the screen for automatic voice prompt of your stats in addition to preset intervals. The program also has free customizable workouts so you can create tempo runs, etc). Anyway. My husband realized how ridiculously stubborn I was being by writing off every Garmin ever made based on being burned by a bad bezel experience. He decided I should have the 610 and purchased it for me. I was very skeptical about the touch screen, but have been ready to marry that GPS unit from the first run. Easy to use, clear readings on screen, not bulky (no offense to you people who love to have a TV set on your wrist) and the vibrating alerts are awesome. 610 forevah! ;)
ReplyDeleteI love my Garmin Forerunner 305. HOWEVER, if you get lucky (TWSS), you can find the now discontinued 310xt at the Denver REI store.
ReplyDeleteThe 310xt was a pricey watch when it first came out, but now you can get it for $199 or $249 w/ heart rate strap. I know because my daughter just started x-country and we looked everywhere for a 310xt and they are really hard to find, but when you do find one they are a steal!!!
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ReplyDeletei am a vote for the Nike+ GPS watch. I tried it twice last week during fun runs at the Nike Store (yes, living in Eugene during the trials has major perks), and I have to honestly say, I have never had so much FUN recording my runs as I did with that watch. I know that "serious runners" thinks it's crap, but it it nice to look at, has a big display, is accurate (on a measured path), has some cool features like the tap to lap (you tap the top of the watch to set a lap) and it is reasonably priced. Plus the web interface is awesome. I am totally sucked into all the props you get for reaching a milestone.
I may buy one as motivation to get me through my next marathon training cycle. As I wrote above, it is just plain FUN!
Happy Fourth of July from Track Town USA :)
Girls on the run is doing a $50. trade in offer when you trade in your old Garmin for a new one but this is only on select models. I checked out the 610. It looks good but a little steep in price.
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I love my Garmin Forerunner 110. Easy to use and not so big. Check them out on www.heartratemonitorsusa.com. Great website to use.
ReplyDeleteI am a big fan of my Garmin 405 CX. Its under $200 now. Love how light it is.
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I have the 610 and it has saved me from ITB injury with the cadence feature. It gives me instant feedback on my steps per minute with the footpod. It is expensive but I justified it with less PT appointments.
ReplyDeleteI stumbled across this blog post while researching my first GPS watch purchase and I’m really curios about which watch you eventually chose because your list of requirements is very similar to my own. I’m still a beginner (only been running about 10 weeks), but I love it and think that a solid GPS watch could really help me in my training. Thanks for any info you can provide.
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