Sunday, August 21, 2011

Gaining Weight While Marathon Training: WTF?

Remember that episode of the Biggest Loser when Daris gained weight during marathon training and Jillian bit his head off? Runners worldwide gave Jillian the virtual finger, knowing that it’s in fact very common to pack on some pounds while training for the big “M.”

Daris ran his first marathon in an amazing 4:02!

I was reminded of this Friday night during a conversation with a friend who I am coaching towards her first marathon. She is about half-way into her 20 week training plan for the Marine Corps in October. I asked how training was going – she said she was plowing through with consistency and strength, and had remained injury free. She then added (while we stuffed guacamole and chips in our pie holes), “But, I’m totally shocked. I’ve gained like 7 pounds. I thought for sure I’d lose weight while training, and this sucks.”

Enough already. I decided I needed to get to the bottom of this weight gain conundrum. Seriously, if you burn on average 100 calories per mile (depending on age, weight, sex, etc.) and run about 30 miles per week, then technically you have 3,000 extra calories of eating to do just to maintain your weight. Right? Wrong.

Here are some reasons you may gain weight while training for a marathon (from HERE and HERE):

  • You're building more muscle mass, which is denser than fat. So while that may translate to an overall weight gain, your body fat percentage has decreased and you're more toned than you were before.
  • Your body is learning to store carbohydrates as fuel (glycogen) for your long runs. Those glycogen stores are important to completing your long runs and marathon without "hitting the wall", but you may see a couple extra pounds on the scale on certain days. Your body also requires additional water to break down and store the glycogen, so that will also add extra weight.
  • You may have been increasing your calorie intake. Running a lot should not be an invitation to eat gallons of ice cream and trays of Oreos. The basic principle for weight loss still applies: You must burn more calories than you consume. To lose a pound, you have to burn, through exercise or life functions, about 3600 calories.
  • You are drinking too many calories. Just because you're training for a marathon doesn't mean that you need to constantly drink sugary sports drinks. While it's important that you replace electrolytes during your long runs, you don't need to constantly have a sports drink at your fingertips the rest of the time. Plain water is fine for staying hydrated during the week.

Keep in mind too that if you go for a long run and then come home and sleep the rest of the day, you probably aren’t burning any more calories than if you were moderately active consistently for most of the day walking, hiking, cleaning the house, etc.

Also it’s important to eat enough food to keep you energized. Dieting while training for a marathon can be dangerous and lead to all sorts of issues like fatigue, illness, and injury. It is a slippery slope:  If you eat more calories than you burn, you'll gain weight. If you eat too few calories, you won't have the energy to train.

Do you gain weight while training for races?

During high volume training I am ravenous and eat much more than I would normally. Even with lots of pooping, that usually this means a weight gain of 2-5 pounds at the peak of training. The extra pounds are mostly muscle and help fuel me towards a better race. After the race, my training volume decreases and I tend to naturally go back to my pre-training weight.

Is one of your motives to train for a marathon or half marathon weight loss?

For me, NO. I am happy with my weight. Yes, you read that right. I am probably in the minority on that one. I train for marathons to challenge myself and to be in the best physical shape I can be. Weight does not figure into the equation for me.

Stay tuned for for scientific info from Dr. San Millan (who did my performance testing) on why, despite your best efforts, you may not be losing weight during exercise.

SUAR

133 comments:

  1. Love this!!!! And love the "virtual smack" on Jillian Michaels. Totally feasible to gain weight and I'm glad you debunked the myth :)

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  2. I actually did track calories during the last month of marathon training. I was starving ALL THE TIME so I wanted to be sure that I was getting enough calories and that were balanced - carbs to protein etc. Many days it was very tempting to eat the fridge, but I think balanced nutrition is just as important as getting your miles in. And if you gain a couple of pounds - big deal.

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  3. My weight stayed the same through most of marathon training, but I dropped a pants size - this makes me think that I gained muscle and lost fat. However, I chunked up during taper and then right after the marathon. Still trying to recover from that one...

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  4. I'm not training for a marathon to lose weight, but I am losing weight while training, which is something I wanted to do. I am carefully watching what I eat to make certain I get enough carbs and protein to fuel my runs and repair my muscles after. Having said all that, I think when you are putting your body through the trauma of training, it wants to hold on to every calorie, so it isn't suprising to me that people gain while training.

    BTW, the a-ripping Jillian gave Darias after he ran a 4 hour marathon is the main reason I stopped watching that show. If I remember correctly, she has never even run a marathon. Nice.

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  5. Funny - definitely gained weight the second time I did a marathon (the first I didn't train for so it doesn't count). And then for boston, I watched what I ate and thought I was starting to look way too skinny by the end (and got sick constantly)! Maybe 4th marathon will be a charm for remaining normal :).

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  6. Kudos! Fabulous post! I'll take dense muscle over fat any day :) I learned that I am ravenous if I wait too long to refuel post-long run which leads to greater calorie consumption later in the day.

    And, hope that your butt is healing too! (and your girl parts post 1/2 mary!)

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  7. This is SUCH an important post. It took me a long time to realize that a number on the scale didn't reflect anything during marathon training. My fiance and I run and train hard, eat well most of the time, and I love all the muscles I'm developing in the training process. A couple pounds of muscle now and some extra carb stores are a-okay for me. :)

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  8. I've also found that a simple thing called "routine" can cause the weight gain.

    When I first started marathon training, I ate and ate (and ate and ate...). I completed my marathon, but kept eating as if I was still training. Problem was, I wasn't putting in the mileage anymore - yet was still consuming marathon calories.

    I've since learned it's not about eating as much of anything that I want. I've also learned to remind myself when my marathon is over, that I need to curb the portions.

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  9. Good post Beth. When I focus on losing some pounds it is in the offseason. Endurance folks need the calories for training and trying to balance losing weight with the necessary glycogen levels needed for each workout is too much.

    But I do think we use our training as an excuse to eat. Which is fine if you are cognizant of ratios (protein/carbs/fat).

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  10. Nope, I've never gained any weight while training. As I told you before it just stays the same. I don't drink my calories other than Nuun and that has hardly any.

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  11. I fluctuate between 144-148 during training and when I go into taper I tend to drop down to 140-142 for race day which is my preferred weight.

    I started this journey to lose weight and it worked, then tapered off. When I became a vegetarian I lost another 6-7 pounds immediately and have stayed at this weight since then.

    We have a lot of math to do in terms of (P/F/C) to make sure that our bodies are prepared for those training and racing days.

    Great post.

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  12. ahh thank you for posting this! I always tell people about the whole glycogen storage and they look baffled. I gain weight during training and its a good thing. Stronger is better for that distance. Nice job Beth!
    LC

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  13. Love the post...I've been so annoyed by the scale going up during this marathon training!!!!!

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  14. This post could not have come at a better time for me. I weighed in for the first time in a couple months the other day and was devastated to find that despite the miles I have been putting in training for my first marathon I am the heaviest I have ever been.

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  15. I don't train to lose weight, but it's nice when it happens. You're so right though about the coming home and sleeping cancelling out what you did or the drinking calories issue. Personally I think putting on a little weight before a big run could be good because it's hard to go into a run where you may bur 2,000 cals and if you're "trying to lose weight" and training yourself to only eat 1,000, race day won't be pretty. Who am I to talk though? I can't run a 4 hour marathon. ha

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  16. I don't gain weight but I certainly can't loose any. I have FINALLY accepted that while I train hard, I will not loose any pounds because I have to eat to refuel and if I don't refuel enough I'll have a crappy workout.

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  17. I have also gained 7 pounds--a combination of several summer vacations and marathon training. I don't drink sugary drinks--just water and I have tried to really watch what I am eating. It's so hard to believe you can put on lbs while running so much!!

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  18. I gained weight during my first marathon training. At first I lost some weight. I figured since I was running 30 plus miles each week that I could also eat what ever I wanted. WRONG. There for I gained 8 pounds. I'm in training for marathon number 2. Eating clean and healthy and also including weight lifting in to my routine.

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  19. I have just banned myself from the scale. I have been consistently gaining weight for over a year, been hiking, running, paying attention not to overeat, but never letting myself starve.

    Today, I reached a milestone, being the almost the heaviest I have ever been in my life. I wanted to give up, cry, scream, starve, anything. And then my boyfriend reminded me that I look good and healthy.

    I may be almost 20 lbs heavier than a year ago, but my waist is smaller, and my pants are loose. I can run. I was never able to do that. I can do a pushup. I have never done a pushup in my life. Screw the scale.

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  20. As long as my shorts/jeans continue to fit, I'm happy.

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  21. My first marathon I lost weight I really didn't have to lose and got all skin and bones. I have no idea why. Second marathon I gained weight, even though I was eating very little at the time. It was my first experience running long distances in the New Orleans summer heat, and the electrolyte loss lead to nasty stomach cramps that deterred me for eating the entire rest of the day. I decreased calories and upped exercise and still gained weight. Oh, and with the weight gain (with the added pounds I was still in a recommended weight bracket) I LOST my period. So basically none of it makes sense to me at all, didn't then and still doesn't!

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  22. Great post!!! That must be my issue....all those stored carbs! No seriously though I did gain weight when I trained for Boston. My running buddy gained about 10lbs but she also carried the mindset that gorging on chocolate chip pancakes and Krispy Kremes every day was ok since she was training!

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  23. I have ALWAYS wondered why this is....great post, now I know:) I will now think of it as DENSE MUSCLE!

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  24. Great topic. I watch my eating very carefully, but I weigh a few pounds more than I did in past training cycles, and they really don't want to budge. I'm okay with the idea of muscle weight, or glycogen storage/water weight...what I'm not okay with is the idea that maybe I am in such good running shape that my body has adapted and no longer burns as many calories running. I hope your expert will not say that is the case! (I also had my body comp tested, and it is fairly low, 15.2% body fat, which may be a factor as to why it is hard for me to lose more fat while still maintaining muscle....)

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  25. Thanks for using your influence to post this truth and encourage those that may be frustrated. I have lost 65lbs in 2 years and it always slows down/stops during racing season. I use the last 3 months of the year (not fit for running) to do some interval and weight training to cut weight before the next season begins!

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  26. I've found in the past that I gained weight while training for a marathon, this summer I took up cycling for cross training and so far during this marathon training I've been able to maintain and even lose a little weight, without having to count every single calorie.

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  27. I think that when you start running often, and then have a long run, you get hungry. I know I get hungry and find it hard to stay full. I don't use it as an excuse to cram junk food into my mouth, but I do eat more than I usually do, and ultimately it is pretty easy to eat up the calories you burned off and then have a few more.

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  28. I was just having a convo about this issue just this morning. I am the same weight (halfway through training season), but my friend said she was having issues with it.
    Thanks for the good info!

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  29. I would put a huge like beside Leauxra's comment. It's not just weight, it's how toned you are, and if you're getting sufficient nutrients and calories for the training.

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  30. I'm so glad you posted about this!!! I wondered why i looked a little more puffy when training for marathons. Now that i know, I'm more conscious about what i eat & am sure to eat healthy foods rather than bad foods.

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  31. Thanks so much for posting this - i loved reading all the comments from people who experience the same thing! This is by far the toughest thing for me when training for the big M...I track all my food, try to balance what I eat to make sure I'm eating enough and not too much, and my weight is still higher than it is in the off season and I'm running a ton. Drives me nuts, but glad to see others go through the same thing!

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  32. I heart you SUAR, but I hate when people say "You're building more muscle mass" By simply marathon training, your friend is unlikely to be building the kind of significant muscle mass to account for any weight gain.

    She would need a very aggressive weight training program and an increase of 250 calories a day (from mostly protein) to gain a half pound a week. Women don't gain muscle without serious, focused effort. Most marathon trainers aren't weight training nearly enough either. Who has time?

    Anytime you start a new training program, weight gain is most likely from your #2 suggestion.

    Good luck to your friend on her first marathon!

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  33. Well, I think I figured out how to lose weight while training. Apparently the HIM training load isn't enough, but IM training load has me losing weight. The difference is that so much of the day you're training so you're trying to keep your stomach empty 2 hours before it and it makes it really hard to find time to eat. And then sometimes you're just too tired to eat. :)

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  34. xcountry - while it likely doesn't account for all of her weight gain, I do think it plays a part.

    Like I said, muscle gain is just one of several components. And, like I said, these reasons for weight gain weren't invented by me, so no need to disgaree with me personally. See the sources!!

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  35. I gain weight when I train. I gain weight when I don't train. I gain weight when I eat. I gain weight when I don't eat. I gain weight when I smell brownies. I've given up and now I am just waiting for a famine.

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  36. Ok, so I know you practically never answer comments, but I need to know, and it never occurred to me before--I very intentionally lost 15 pounds while training for my last marathon and I hit the wall hard during the race. Could the two have been related?

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  37. Thanks for the reminder. I just managed to lose all the weight I gained for my October marathon last year. Le sigh.

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  38. I'm with X-Country, I find that pure running results in very little actual muscle gain, at least once you get up to marathon training. When you are first learning to run you have muscle gains, but marathon training results in more endurance, and some muscle strength, but again, probably only half a pound.

    I trained hard for a hilly ultra and my legs did not get significantly larger due to muscle mass.

    I'm betting that if your friend had her body fat percentage take she'd find that she has gained more fat than muscle. That said, there are more important things than muscle, like, say, completing a marathon...

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  39. oh Yeah I remember that. Jillian pissed me off.

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  40. I stay pretty much the same during training and probably actually don't eat as much as I should.

    I don't train to lose weight, but love that it's an added bonus. My problem right now is the 6lbs I've gained since my last marathon. My body hasn't known what to do with the break in training. And my brain still thinks that I should eat like I'm running ridiculous mileage. My fault for listening, I guess...

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  41. RW had a great piece on this online a while back that was a real eye-opener for me. Yes, you burn 100 cal a mile, but that is 100 "gross" cal per mile, not a net add. That is, some of that 100 cal would have still been burned if you were sitting on your couch. I think the calc was something like 0.5-0.65*cal per mile = net burned extra per mile, on top of what you'd burn anyway. (0.3ish if walking) Once I figured I could only eat half of my mileage cals extra, that helped. For example, my 13 mile training run on Sat gets me 650 extra cals, of which 300 is taken in during the run itself in gels, leaving me 350 extra to play with.

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  42. This post couldn't have come at a better time! I'm training for my first marathon right now and while I'm not doing this to loose weight, it is frustrating to that number on the scale going up, even with running 50+ miles a week and still eating healthy! Thank you

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  43. Going into my first marathon, I thought for sure I would lose some weight and was hoping I'd lose the weight on my tummy that just won't go away. Sure enough I gained weight, only a few lbs but was pretty surprised. I remember thinking about that BL episode.

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  44. I did experience weight loss when I trained for my marathons. Mostly because running does a major # of my digestive system and there were tons of time when I would finish a long run and spend the next several hours in the bathroom, unable to tolerate solid foods. This was especially bad when we had season ticket to UM games and I would pretty much have a packet of animal crackers, a pretzel, and a sprite from the time I finished my run (prior to attending the game and it ending). That was all I could tolerate of stadium food.

    Tri training has been another story. Biking just makes me hungry and I CAN eat. I can eat ANYTHING after biking, and WHILE biking. AT Muncie 70.3 they asked the athletes who had lost the most weight training for the event, someone had lost 150 lbs. Not me. I gained weight from in it. My upper body was way more muscular than before, as well as my legs. My BQ marathon was at a heavier weight than my first, though. I think being stronger played a huge role in me being faster.

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  45. This happened to me as well when I was training for my half marathon. I'm getting ready to start training for my first marathon so as I understand the post, still nervous to see the scale go up.

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  46. This is such good information. I haven't run a marathon or even a half marathon ( I did walk a half). The more informed the better as I heal from an injury and move towards a goal of running. Thank you.

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  47. I gained weight from both halfs I did and with tris I trained for even while keeping track of calories. The only time I lost weight was when it was too hot to eat and I was eating mostly fruit. I also lost weight during recovery from an injury and only doing yoga.
    I find it all frustrating because I was keeping track of calories in a tracking system and was unshooting my needs (programs est my calorie burn I think was over the amount). I think my body holds on to calories while I am training hard and I tend to look puffier for sure. I am very interesed in what the dr says and how it may differ from gender and different people in general. I am not trying to find a certain number on a scale but my clothes are literally tigher when I am training. I wonder if it has to do with cortosil levels as well...

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  48. Since I started running again and training for races I have lost 23 pounds. I can see my bones now , not just pudge.....But the neat thing about it is that I do not run to lose weight nor do I diet. It just happens, I love to run and the pounds just melt off and I dont need to diet. I work hard for my miles I run and I have learned that if I feed my body good stuff then I get good stuff out of it! When I eat crap I feel like crap. And once in awhile when I eat some junk food, I dont feel bad because I will burn it off the next day.

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  49. This is a great post, my own research is leading me in the same direction but it's a wonderful synopsis.

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  50. Great post! I was one of the lucky ones that lost weight during marathon training (last time). This time around, I haven't weighed myself so I'm in the dark but I think I may be on the opposite end of the spectrum. Weight gain actually makes perfect sense when you lay out all those reasons, but damn it, I don't like it! I guess I need to stop being lazy after those 20 milers, huh?

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  51. Great post! I was one of the lucky ones that lost weight during marathon training (last time). This time around, I haven't weighed myself so I'm in the dark but I think I may be on the opposite end of the spectrum. Weight gain actually makes perfect sense when you lay out all those reasons, but damn it, I don't like it! I guess I need to stop being lazy after those 20 milers, huh?

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  52. Jillian often needs a smack. Her calories in/calories out method is bunk to begin with. My first marathon I didn't lose any weight, but I didn't gain any either. I could still stand to lose 30 pounds even if nobody believes it. My problem comes after the marathon. I'm not a summer runner, so if I'm not super careful about what I'm eating, I will gain 10-20 pounds. The post marathon recovery phase. I take that to the way extremes. Give this girl one week off and she'll take 2... months.

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  53. I totally gain weight when I run/train. Like a solid 5-7 pounds of extra me. It's depressing. I love my non-running weight, but get aggravated with my extra pounds when training. My choices are to be svelte but flabby, or be 5+ pounds heavier with an ass of steel (and quads to match).

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  54. I pretty much always loose. And I eat A LOT. All day long. That's why I love heavy training :)

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  55. Last year I lost weight training. I was very strict about my food. Counted calories and was diligent about portions. This year I have laxed and gained. It's food and calories. You may have temporary gains from muscle recover/fluid. This is my non professional opinion.

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  56. I hate hate hate the fact that I'm gaining weight during this training. I haven't hit my long mile days yet and have already packed on 7 pounds within the first 7 weeks of my training. I journal everything down to the calories in a tsp of seasoning added to food so I know I'm not loading on calories....don't even like sugary drinks. Im assuming its muscle weight but that doesn't make me feel better about it. My inches aren't shrinking either. Maybe my mindset will change as time goes on and just be happy its muscle instead of fat. Maybe. I can say my run time & endurance has improved greatly so kudos for that. I will be ready in October no matter the weight.

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  57. Your reason for gaining weight is something called the PPAR alpha.
    Your leptin levels are going down, C reactive proteins are pushing them down.

    Here's what happened:
    Endurance training-induced accumulation of muscle triglycerides is coupled to upregulation of *stearoyl-CoA desaturase 1*.
    http://jap.physiology.org/content/109/6/1653.full

    Cross-talk between peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor (PPAR) alpha and liver X receptor (LXR) in nutritional regulation of fatty acid metabolism. II. LXRs suppress lipid degradation gene promoters through inhibition of PPAR signaling. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12730332

    liver X receptor (LXR)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liver_X_receptor#Activation.2Fligands

    "The primary regulator of ketone body synthesis is fatty acid availability. When hormonal conditions (e.g., high glucagon, low insulin) cause fatty acid concentration in the plasma to be high, malonyl CoA concentration in the liver cytoplasm is low (because acetyl CoA carboxylase is in the less active phosphorylated state). http://library.med.utah.edu/NetBiochem/FattyAcids/faq.html

    "During sustained low to moderate exercise, fatty acid oxidation increases to become the predominant energy source to muscles [17]. CPTI (Figure 2) is a control point of FA oxidation and decreased carnitine levels and acidosis of CPT1 have been implicated in decreased fatty acid oxidation during heavy exercise [18]. Deficiencies in CPTII may result in exercise induced muscle injury due to inability to increase FA oxidation with increased exertion."http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/7/1/30/

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    NOW HERE'S THE KICKER. HOW MANY OF YOU ARE SURE THAT YOU'RE FEEDING YOUR GLUCAGON STORES AND NOT TRIGGERING INSULIN SPIKES?

    Lance Armstrong was triggering insulin spikes. How do I know?

    -inflammation = insulin spikes (TGFbeta1 blocks inositol. Inositol naturally keeps the insulin at normal levels. Taking any kind of sex steroids shrinks the thymus gland and puts that individual at risk for allergies, inflammation, etc.)

    -insulin blocks IGFBP-1. What the heck is that? You ask... IGFBP-1 BLOCKS BREAST CANCER AND PROSTATE CANCER. If the insulin is blocking the insulin growth factor beta protein-1, you're already at a higher risk for both cancers.

    -INSULIN DUMPS GLUCOSE INTO FAT CELLS TO CLEAR THE BLOOD.
    ***Just because you're an athlete does not mean you're glucagon level goes up. You have to lower your insulin too which means fighting inflammation and adding nutrients to your body***

    I will help you out here... how to control your insulin spikes:
    -AVOID HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP
    -sugar in moderation? (I have a chocolate habit too)
    -barley lowers insulin levels.

    -inositol.

    -AVOID TRANSFATS AND POLYSATURATED FATTY ACIDs. MUFAs are not an essential nutrient. Meaning, your body makes MUFAs on it's own. Anorexics create MUFAs. They don't need coconut or olive oil to create MUFAs. The energy expenditure might be similar, but MUFAs increase ghrelin levels which creates hunger.



    -ALSO with glucose? Your L cells in the small intestine reads the sugar in your digestive tract to tell the pancreas what to expect. IF there is a lot of sugar, the L-cells will release something called a "GLP-1" or glucagon like peptide-1 that will tell the pancreas to release insulin. I haven't seen any evidence that the pancreas can even read our blood glucose levels.

    How to increase glucagon stores:
    ...arginine, ibmx, carnitine increase glucagon


    Now, instead of whining about it... RESEARCH!

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  123. I CONSOLIDATED ALL MY DEBTS,BRIGHT ORIS CASH LOANS, THEY REALLY HELPED ME. MY NAMES ARE MRS. MARY KOOPMAN, AM FROM CAPE TOWN... AM HERE TO TESTIFY OF WHAT HAPPENED AND I REALLY THANK GOD ALMIGHTY FOR HIS GRACE UPON MY LIFE, I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR A LOAN FOR THE PAST 10 MONTHS NOW, I HAVE BEEN DECLINED EVERY WERE BECAUSE MY DEBTS ARE TOO MUCH AND ALSO I AM BLACKLISTED AS WELL, AND MY HUSBAND IS NOT WORKING THAT EVEN WORSEN EVERY THING FOR US, A VERY GOOD FRIEND OF MINE DIRECTED ME TO THIS LOAN COMPANY BECAUSE THEY ALSO GAVE HER LOAN FUNDS WHEN SHE WAS IN NEED AND ALSO SHE WAS UNDER DEBTS REVIEW AS WELL JUST LIKE ME NO FINANCIAL COMPANY WANTED TO HELP HER SO THIS COMPANY FINANCIALLY HELPED HER AND SHE WAS SO HAPPY SO ONE DAY I TOLD HER ALL MY PROBLEMS AND SHE JUST TOLD ME THAT SHE HAS A SOLUTION TO MY PROBLEMS I WAS SO SO SURPRISE AND SHE GAVE ME THIS COMPANY EMAIL ADDRESS TO CONTACT THEM FOR A LOAN THAT THEY WILL HELP ME AND I REALLY DID AS INSTRUCTED BY HER AND THEY REALLY HELPED ME WITH A LOAN WHICH I USED TO CONSOLIDATE ALL MY DEBTS, EVEN WHEN I WAS UNDER DEBTS REVIEW, I REALLY COULD NOT BELIEVE MY EYES, THEY OFFER ME R250, 000 EVEN WHEN I WAS BLACKLISTED AND I WAS UNDER DEBTS REVIEW TO CONSOLIDATE ALL MY DEBTS, AM GIVING THIS TESTIMONY BECAUSE I PROMISED THEM THAT IF THEY REALLY OFFER ME A LOAN, I WILL GO OVER THE INTERNET AND POST THEIR GOOD WORK, IF YOU ARE OUT THERE LOOKING FOR A LOAN, I WILL LIKE YOU TO CONTACT THEM, NO CREDIT CHECK, IF YOU ARE BLACKLISTED AND ALSO IF YOU ARE UNDER DEBTS REVIEW YOU ARE WELCOME TO THEIR COMPANY, JUST GET YOUR LOAN REGISTERED AND FUNDS WILL BE DEPOSITED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT WITHIN 1 HOUR. THEY OFFER LOAN FROM 5,000RAND(FIVE THOUSAND RAND) TO 2,000 000 RAND(TWO MILLION RAND) TODAY AM SO FREE AND HAPPY BECAUSE I HAVE PAID OFF ALL MY DEBTS AND AND AM SO FREE AND CLEAN FROM ALL SORTS OF DEBTS THANKS TO BRIGHT ORIS CASH LOANS CONTACT THEM TODAY FOR HELP(EMAIL:bright.oris.loan@gmail.com..... THEY ARE EFFICIENT,DYNAMIC AND 100% RELAIBLE ....

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  124. How my search for a real loan lender was actualized: I am Engr Mascout Brown by name, A born citizen of New Zealand, But due to my business i reside and i live in Canada. I have been here with my family for the past 25 years now for business. Before i really move on with my success story. I will want to first of all let everyone know that i am not joking with my story. Almost six months ago, I was in a critical search for a genuine loan lending company were i can obtain a loan of $120,000.00 Dollars, On this search i was not lucky to contact this reliable and dedicated loan firm that has taken helping those in need of loan there sole responsibility without failing them. During my search i contact four loan lenders online that promised me loan but at the end of it all i was aware they were fraudsters and complete scammers from Nigeria that were reported to the FBI by me when i found out that they out online to rip were they did not sow. But before i could realize this, I have lost over $17,500.00 dollars to them. Anyway i am so happy now as i am smiling now, Because i finally meet with this reliable loan company called Bright Oris loan Investment who finally granted me my desired loan amount of $120,000.00 for the period of 16 Years. To be honest with all that are in-search of a real and genuine loan company, I was in a very big doubt when i contact them online after reading through there advert were they said they offer loan to the world, Oh !! I will never forget on the 2/1/2014 which was in the afternoon my time when i was suffing through the internet when i came across the advert that was posted by them. I don't really know what take my attention to that advert, Because i vowed to God that i will never contact any loan lender online again, That they are all con artist and rip off. But this day that i read through the advert of this loan firm know as Bright Oris loan Investment, A spirits inside of me direct me to contact them and when i did, I told them all i have been through online trying to get loan and they personally sympathize with me and said to me that i should be lucky and thank God for directing me to them finally, As they are giving me a 100% assurance that after this loan process has been done, That i will get my loan show up on my banking information's that i sent to them during the period of processing my loan amount. I am so happy and i don't even know what to say about this dynamic loan firm anymore that i came in-contact with that grant me my loan amount without any trace of scam activities. I am so sure that if this advert that i am dropping on this website is seen by the board of directors of this loan firm they will be impressed as i promised to testify of there goodness if they can grant my huge dream loan amount that has taken my business to the next level now. To all you loan seekers out there that need loan to speed up his / her business, settle long period accumulated bills / debts and to be financially stable, i urge you all today and now to stop searching as i and my wife is telling you all in the name of God for those that are Christians like us and to the Muslims, we are telling you all in the name of Allah if i am right, not to fall a victim to those scammers / rip off artist out there online, As be wise to kindly send your loan application to Bright Oris loan Investment as you are not going to regret doing this at all. The kind of loans they grant to customers are as follows: Personal Loan, Business Start-up or Expansion, Education, Debt Consolidation, Hard Money Loans, etc. Save yourself from the scam loan lenders online and send your loan application to :bright.oris.loan@gmail.com for your loan amount.

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  125. Good day!!!

    Am just smiling as am posting this because Bright Oris Financial Company has made me and my family out of debts. It all started when i needed a loan of $50000usd to clear all my debt, so came across his email contact on the internet so I decided to apply for the loan from him and right now am very happy and great full for the help of Shark Spear for giving me my loan,you can contact him now via email to get yours okay:bright.oris.loan@gmail.com .

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  126. Good day.
    I can’t hide this great testimony that took place in my life i will love everyone to know it and be partaker that is why i want to share it to the whole world by placing this advert on classifieds, I am Mrs Kate Loore by name, I live in Chattanooga, Tennessee United State, I want to thank Bright Oris for his kindness upon my family life, I never knew that there is still a sincere and trustworthy lender like this on the internet and on earth. Just some days i was in search for a loan of $ 100,000.00 Dollars, As I was running out of money for feeding, School fees, My business was really going out of capital and my rent. I was scammed about $15,000Dollars and I decided not to involve my self in such business again. But a Friend of mine introduced me to a loan firm due to my appearance and doings and also my complains to her. And I told her that I am not interested in any loan deal anymore but she told me that there is still a sincere lender who she will recommend me to, And she gave me the details of this man who is called Shakes Spear. And i really put a trial and i am most greatful and lucky today, I was given a loan amount of $95,000,00 Dollars by this great firm CALLED MR BRIGHT ORIS. If you are in need of a genuine, Sincere, durable and a truth worthy loan lender or financial assistanceand also you know you can be reliable and trusted, capable of paying back at the due / duration time of the funds I will advice you to send your contact to them via email on :bright.oris.loan@gmail.com . And you will be free from scams on the internet. My lovely wife extend her greetings to you also if not for you I can't imaginethe way life should be for my family today. Please I am begging everyone on earth to help me thank Mr Shakes Spear. And I will always being sharing this great surpriseand testimony that happened in my life everyday to all that need loans. Again there contact email is as follows: bright.oris.loan@gmail.com .. CONTACT THEM NOW VIA EMAIL FOR LOAN:bright.oris.loan@gmail.com AS THEY ARE EFFICIENT,DYNAMIC AND RELAIBLE.....

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  127. Get a loan from R10, 000(Ten Thousand South Africa Rand) up to R10, 000,000.00 (Ten Million South Africa Rand) whenever you need it at a fixed interest rate of 2% for your peace of mind. Whether you need money for unexpected expenses, a medical crisis, to further children's education, home renovations, car loan, business loan or consolidate your accounts starloans could be the an ideal solution.

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  129. Good day!!!

    Am just smiling as am posting this because Bright Oris Financial Company has made me and my family out of debts. It all started when i needed a loan of $50000usd to clear all my debt, so came across his email contact on the internet so I decided to apply for the loan from him and right now am very happy and great full for the help of Bright Oris for giving me my loan,you can contact him now via email to get yours okay:bright.oris.loan@gmail.com .

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